Originally aired March 13th, 2013

Before he became superduper famous with an album
https://blackgryph0n.bandcamp.com/album/immortal

and lots of songs
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzWGXYFDiiJ338KIJPhbhQ

and 17K followers
https://twitter.com/BlackGryph0n

BlackGryph0n was on my show. We recorded about...4 1/2 hours of just goofing around. It was great. I do regret that, even though we were both in Japan so long, we never met face to face.